global warming is bullshit..

[skeletor]

"before global warming started in 1971" WTF

I'm intrigued where you got 1971 from.

[sparksy]

"before global warming started in 1971" WTF

the earth was getting colder until 1971 ..even bbc horizon made a program about could we entering another ice age... from turn of the century even thru WW2
and after when the world went into mass production and re-building.. c02 levels rocketted...but temps dropped until 1971 when it started to rise again.

this is facts from a documentry on it all i watched

[skeletor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_war ... nomaly.svg

[sparksy]

that is wrong... didnt start to warm up at all untill 1971... and it was warmer before that in the middle ages.. before man made c02 .. thats were the name "vine street " in london came from.. it was that warm they grew grapes

[skeletor]

London = Weather
Global = Climate

Don't confuse the 2.

[sparksy]

London = Weather
Global = Climate

no it was warmer everywere.. the climate was hotter than it is now without any man made c02... it is all down to solar activity.. not man made c02

[skeletor]

[sparksy]

try that one... its really interesting...

[skeletor]

Already been well publicised that the data was modified to fit the propoganda of the video and interviews chop and changed to say what they wanted.

http://climatedenial.org/2007/05/01/why ... ersuasive/
https://web.duke.edu/nicholas/bio217/tls14/general.html

I've actually been reading a fair bit recently about the psychology behind people that are set in their minds against set scientific theories/facts (climate change, evolution, man landing on moon etc), it's pretty interesting stuff but ultimately comes down to the fact that the more these people are told they're wrong and why they're wrong will be more steadfast in their belief that they're right and won't accept empirical evidence showing that they wrong. It's a huge problem as the people that need to enforce change within Governments are being fooled/paid by companies like Exxon who plough millions in to trying to discredit climate change papers which results in in-action/no action just so that the shareholders at the major oil companies can continue to get richer and more powerful.

[sparksy]

trouble is both sides of the coin have stuff to gain from it... one way or another, but it was in the news not to long ago that the graph showing c02 levels and the actual spike in temp changes had no links to each other, and this was on the bbc/itv not any conspiricy website.. i just think the earth warms and cools periodically due to solar activity not how much pollution we spew out. dont get me wrong i think we should all be greener and look after the planet, but some facts dont add up and you can just see though some of the schemes that sneaky councils and politcal partys come up with to either make money or get votes.. end of the day science fact is what we should look at and loads of the original global warming data has been disproved since it first came out...

heres a early doc claiming the world was getting colder not warmer...